eb3_2004
04-27 07:39 AM
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/04/27/h-1b-j-1-immigrants-more-productive-than-americans-study-says/?mod=rss_WSJBlog
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Oli-G
06-13 12:42 AM
Nice work here.... might try and whip one up the next few days
snathan
03-29 01:53 PM
@Snathan how did you know he didn't call me here , are you one of the consultants yourself who does this filthy work of cheating people.
I guess it was my employers discretion to make me sit home with him just not responding to my mails, i couldn't barge in to his office and say hey give me desk to work on? can i ?
Anyways looking at the LCA agreement i think you don't seem to know what you are talking about, I am here holding his company's name on my H1B form , His agreement on LCA and his employment letter, i dunno if there is any other way i could make inroads into barging into his office?
Now if he puts a security guard against me entering his office, shouldn't i report this to DOL too?
Mind your words you low life scum bag. You don’t know what you were doing and paid for H1B and landed here and informed your employer through email which states he did not invite you to the US though he applied for the H1B. By the way when did he informed about the project situation.
Yea...you go ahead and report DOL or even white house. I am sure you won’t get anything out of it as there are so many loop holes in your case. No one is going to pay you the green buck because you want it.
Getting emotional is not going to help you. Your case is not going to impact your employer until he is doing this as a pattern. The only other option is, if you can get another job apply for a transfer and the approval without I-94. Then you will have to go out of the country and come back.
Your first priority should be to get the job and fix your visa issues. Then find other employees working for this employer and if they are in similar situation like you. If so, you have a very strong case and complaint to DOL. May be you should use this as a leverage to get the pay stub and do transfer. Really speaking pay stub is not an issue as long as you are able to get a job.
You need to relax and think what do you want to do and whats your goal...do you want to put your life back on track or go after this guy. You can teach him a lesson but how it’s going to help improving your situation. Because of the current environment, no one needs to file any complaint and every application from any company is thoroughly scrutinized by the USCIS. Worst case he will shut the shop and open another one. All he needs is a $300 to register a company. USCIS is not going to deport him as he might be already on GC or USC. But there is every possibility for ICE to knock on your door. You are just shooting yourself in the foot. Good luck.
I guess it was my employers discretion to make me sit home with him just not responding to my mails, i couldn't barge in to his office and say hey give me desk to work on? can i ?
Anyways looking at the LCA agreement i think you don't seem to know what you are talking about, I am here holding his company's name on my H1B form , His agreement on LCA and his employment letter, i dunno if there is any other way i could make inroads into barging into his office?
Now if he puts a security guard against me entering his office, shouldn't i report this to DOL too?
Mind your words you low life scum bag. You don’t know what you were doing and paid for H1B and landed here and informed your employer through email which states he did not invite you to the US though he applied for the H1B. By the way when did he informed about the project situation.
Yea...you go ahead and report DOL or even white house. I am sure you won’t get anything out of it as there are so many loop holes in your case. No one is going to pay you the green buck because you want it.
Getting emotional is not going to help you. Your case is not going to impact your employer until he is doing this as a pattern. The only other option is, if you can get another job apply for a transfer and the approval without I-94. Then you will have to go out of the country and come back.
Your first priority should be to get the job and fix your visa issues. Then find other employees working for this employer and if they are in similar situation like you. If so, you have a very strong case and complaint to DOL. May be you should use this as a leverage to get the pay stub and do transfer. Really speaking pay stub is not an issue as long as you are able to get a job.
You need to relax and think what do you want to do and whats your goal...do you want to put your life back on track or go after this guy. You can teach him a lesson but how it’s going to help improving your situation. Because of the current environment, no one needs to file any complaint and every application from any company is thoroughly scrutinized by the USCIS. Worst case he will shut the shop and open another one. All he needs is a $300 to register a company. USCIS is not going to deport him as he might be already on GC or USC. But there is every possibility for ICE to knock on your door. You are just shooting yourself in the foot. Good luck.
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anilsal
03-13 12:57 AM
enjoying life after the GC what else??!!!
answer with complete honesty, if YOU got your green card today, would YOU ever be involved in IV again? except maybe when you want some answers during your naturalization stage?
:)
naive....naive.....
IV is a movement. Once you are on it, irrespective of whether you are personally successful, you will be associated with IV. I do not have my GC yet. But surely when I have it, I will continue my association with IV. :)
answer with complete honesty, if YOU got your green card today, would YOU ever be involved in IV again? except maybe when you want some answers during your naturalization stage?
:)
naive....naive.....
IV is a movement. Once you are on it, irrespective of whether you are personally successful, you will be associated with IV. I do not have my GC yet. But surely when I have it, I will continue my association with IV. :)
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manishs7
07-18 05:46 PM
3. Time limit on FBI namecheck.
4. Visa number for primary applicant only..
4. Visa number for primary applicant only..
thepaew
12-13 03:53 PM
I agree. I feel that the only thing that would be acheived if IV became a paid website is loss of membership. Then our PR documents will start with "IV is an organization of 200 members who are affected by ... "
Human nature is such that a few lead and others follow. We should recognize this and move on.
Human nature is such that a few lead and others follow. We should recognize this and move on.
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laborchic
12-09 05:33 PM
Bump Bump..
Folks dont let this thread die..
Moderators can we have link of this thread posted on the homepage????
Folks dont let this thread die..
Moderators can we have link of this thread posted on the homepage????
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jnraajan
03-13 05:35 PM
Good Questions. Would you be willing to jump into the field and start motivating people to be part of IV and be actively involved in IV Action Items?. Would you be willing to find out what is stopping people from getting involved with IV?. We are always short on Volunteers to work on IV Activities and we definately welcome newbies willing to work for this cause. We have a few highly dedicated volunteers who spend time educating other people about IV, forming state chapters, recruiting members into state chapters, organizing chapter events, raising funds and the list can go on. These volunteers have 24 hours in a day just like everyone else and they have full time jobs, families, careers, schools to attend etc. Would you be willing to go out and recruit volunteers for us?
Sure. Like I stated before, I have been educating people about IV here for quite some time now. Let me know what needs to be done. If you all can share your experiences, I can work on it.
Sure. Like I stated before, I have been educating people about IV here for quite some time now. Let me know what needs to be done. If you all can share your experiences, I can work on it.
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08-06 12:33 PM
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vgayalu
02-01 01:21 PM
Here are the few main reasons for retrogression to India and China etc are
1) When H1B quota is 65, 000 the GC visa number is 140, 000 . But when they increased H1B from 65,000 to 195,000 the did not incresed GC visa numbers.
2) There is no country quota in H1B ( other than Chile and one more country for 7,000) visas. So most of the H1b's are issued to few countries like India,China and Philippines. But when we come to GC visa there is country quota.
3) We all know about that ilegal immigrants used some GC numbers which are meant for EB people.
We need to educate the USCIS why and how we are suffering in getting GC.
there is no need and use of blaming Desi companies. I do not support any illegal activities like sale of Labour certifications .
We all know about supply and demand theory which causes black marketing.
Selling of approved labour ( which has old PD ) is also same thing.
1) When H1B quota is 65, 000 the GC visa number is 140, 000 . But when they increased H1B from 65,000 to 195,000 the did not incresed GC visa numbers.
2) There is no country quota in H1B ( other than Chile and one more country for 7,000) visas. So most of the H1b's are issued to few countries like India,China and Philippines. But when we come to GC visa there is country quota.
3) We all know about that ilegal immigrants used some GC numbers which are meant for EB people.
We need to educate the USCIS why and how we are suffering in getting GC.
there is no need and use of blaming Desi companies. I do not support any illegal activities like sale of Labour certifications .
We all know about supply and demand theory which causes black marketing.
Selling of approved labour ( which has old PD ) is also same thing.
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snram4
01-20 10:42 PM
There will be always fear that good people also will be impacted. If the person and company are geneuine then they can provide enough documentation to escape from regulation. If the person is good and company is bad then he can change the company.
I did not see any opposition from lawyers website for this except IV. Most lawyer sites advise employers to prepare proper documentation to tackle this
You did not miss anything. Those affected are bodyshop people who abuse the system. This memo is really good for those of us who do not support abuse. If these abusers get kicked out at POE and their I140 and I485 are denied, it may make more room for those of us who have not cheated the system. If my application is in Q behind these abusers, then I surely want these guys kicked out.
I did not see any opposition from lawyers website for this except IV. Most lawyer sites advise employers to prepare proper documentation to tackle this
You did not miss anything. Those affected are bodyshop people who abuse the system. This memo is really good for those of us who do not support abuse. If these abusers get kicked out at POE and their I140 and I485 are denied, it may make more room for those of us who have not cheated the system. If my application is in Q behind these abusers, then I surely want these guys kicked out.
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gccovet
06-13 10:21 AM
I believe that there is a great flaw in the way the USCIS allocates VISA NUMBERS among EB1, EB2 and EB3 which is very much evident and if we can stand united we can get something done.
After carefully observing the trend in VISA approval and VISA bulletins, It is a reality that EB3-I is not moving and at the same time EB2 and EB1 are moving fast in relative terms and probably may even become current ( EB1 is already current ), But one thing USCIS is clearly not considering is the Priority Date, which basically means that they are not giving a damn thing about how long the person from EB3-I is waiting for. Here is my suggestion and some of the IV representatives need to analyse what Iam gonna say and see if they can stand up. Being an EB3-I india myself, i totally agree that EB1 and EB2 should be given a weightage and some preference over EB3, but I dont agree to what USCIS is currently following, EB2 With priority 2006 getting ahead of EB3-I with priority date 2001. This is ridiculous and to even think about it, it just sounds stupid. What they can do is , They can move the Dates in both Categories while giving preference to EB1 and EB2 first.
Please dont jump up & down before i complete. Iam just giving you an example of how things should work and how they can move dates forward for all 3 categories while maintaining that EB1 and EB2 gets preference over EB3. Let us ignore Eb1, since it is already current. Now Coming to Eb2, the priority Date is 2004 for them.Ideally speaking, They should not move them ahead until atleast EB3 reaches 2004. But once Both EB2 and EB3 reaches the priority date of 2004, Obviously EB2 gets the preference over Eb3 and EB2 will start to move ahead but not by much, let us say 1 year. Now, Clearly, EB2 is still given the extra preference over EB3 but at the same time, we are maintaining the priority dates between EB2 and EB3 as close as possible so that the system is not totally unfair to EB3 filers. I think, as one of the un-biased Organisation we should stand up against this unfair treatment in general. I hope even EB-2 will understand what iam trying to say.
let me know if iam making any sense. If am wrong, also let me know. So that i can get a better understanding of things and correct myself.
I can understand your feelings.
As of now, the only solution is to support IV to push for getting wasted numbers back and removing per country quota.
-GCCovet
After carefully observing the trend in VISA approval and VISA bulletins, It is a reality that EB3-I is not moving and at the same time EB2 and EB1 are moving fast in relative terms and probably may even become current ( EB1 is already current ), But one thing USCIS is clearly not considering is the Priority Date, which basically means that they are not giving a damn thing about how long the person from EB3-I is waiting for. Here is my suggestion and some of the IV representatives need to analyse what Iam gonna say and see if they can stand up. Being an EB3-I india myself, i totally agree that EB1 and EB2 should be given a weightage and some preference over EB3, but I dont agree to what USCIS is currently following, EB2 With priority 2006 getting ahead of EB3-I with priority date 2001. This is ridiculous and to even think about it, it just sounds stupid. What they can do is , They can move the Dates in both Categories while giving preference to EB1 and EB2 first.
Please dont jump up & down before i complete. Iam just giving you an example of how things should work and how they can move dates forward for all 3 categories while maintaining that EB1 and EB2 gets preference over EB3. Let us ignore Eb1, since it is already current. Now Coming to Eb2, the priority Date is 2004 for them.Ideally speaking, They should not move them ahead until atleast EB3 reaches 2004. But once Both EB2 and EB3 reaches the priority date of 2004, Obviously EB2 gets the preference over Eb3 and EB2 will start to move ahead but not by much, let us say 1 year. Now, Clearly, EB2 is still given the extra preference over EB3 but at the same time, we are maintaining the priority dates between EB2 and EB3 as close as possible so that the system is not totally unfair to EB3 filers. I think, as one of the un-biased Organisation we should stand up against this unfair treatment in general. I hope even EB-2 will understand what iam trying to say.
let me know if iam making any sense. If am wrong, also let me know. So that i can get a better understanding of things and correct myself.
I can understand your feelings.
As of now, the only solution is to support IV to push for getting wasted numbers back and removing per country quota.
-GCCovet
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natrajs
07-02 02:32 PM
I think we should also hear from people who have taken action and what their experience was. This may give ideas to others.
I have taken my Ex - employer to DOL and USCIS and I was successful getting my money back.
If you go with lawsuit then it becomes partially a Civil case rather than criminal offense.
If any one needs info how to proceed send me a PM
I have taken my Ex - employer to DOL and USCIS and I was successful getting my money back.
If you go with lawsuit then it becomes partially a Civil case rather than criminal offense.
If any one needs info how to proceed send me a PM
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50cent
06-21 03:57 PM
This thread is amazing...It is nice to know that a lot of people are in the same situation...
1 Q though :
I am planning to get a registered marriage in India (in july) and the come back to file I-485 as "married". The real wedding will be in Jan 08. Will i be able to use the 180 day "follow on" rule here ?
Thanks for all your support people...
1 Q though :
I am planning to get a registered marriage in India (in july) and the come back to file I-485 as "married". The real wedding will be in Jan 08. Will i be able to use the 180 day "follow on" rule here ?
Thanks for all your support people...
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absaarkhan
10-08 03:08 PM
Hi ssa,
Thanks for your response.
Its good to know that you were able to do a H1B Transfer
even after entering US on Advance Parole.
Followup questions:
1. Is the I-94 # on your New H1B Approval same as the I-94 which you got
when you entered US on Advance Parole?
2. I am sure that your Attorney might have mentioned that last manner of
Entry into US is "Paroled" when he filed for your H1B transfer.
Please confirm this.
3. Finally, did u get any RFE for your H1B Transfer?
Thanks for your response.
Its good to know that you were able to do a H1B Transfer
even after entering US on Advance Parole.
Followup questions:
1. Is the I-94 # on your New H1B Approval same as the I-94 which you got
when you entered US on Advance Parole?
2. I am sure that your Attorney might have mentioned that last manner of
Entry into US is "Paroled" when he filed for your H1B transfer.
Please confirm this.
3. Finally, did u get any RFE for your H1B Transfer?
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ashkam
08-14 08:36 AM
Is this a parody post? How exactly is the law favorable to EB3? Just because they are allowed to file in EB2 later? Does this mean the law also favors children because it allows them to grow up? EB2 is in 2006. EB3 is stuck in 2001. "Plight"? Give me a break.
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kumsoft
07-26 07:05 PM
2006 PD filers dont worry abt spouse 485. Your PD would become available only after couple of years. My PD is Sept 2005 and I dont anticipate to get my GC within 2yrs. For reference look at the PERM data that is published, you would get a good idea.
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bibin_kirkland
12-28 04:09 AM
Hi, Me and my wife had our H1B extension interview at Chennai on dec 18th morning. My wife got her passport after 2 days however mine is getting delayed I am getting really anxious since my return flight is on Jan 5th.
Regards,
Bibin
Regards,
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belmontboy
05-24 01:18 PM
just presenting a possible reason why what paskal proposed in his post does not work well in IV.......its not a question of whether phone calls are important or not....its a question of making a significant number of forum stakeholders (and not 1-2%) get to act on any initiative......fund raising/ calling efforts etc....
i genuinely believe that the core members go above and beyond whats expected to do what they are doing for IV - its truly remarkable...they all have busy lives and it takes great conviction and dedication to take the time out and do this...but why are the people still not responding despite the obvious pitfalls of not acting on GC related initiatives.......
maybe its lethargy, inaction, indifference etc.......but we should be open to considering that just maybe, a vast and silent majority of IVians do not feel a sense of representation in the organization and hence do not react as enthusiastically as they should........legitimacy among the constituents often comes with representation
why did most kingdoms around the world perish and give way to democracies......bcos the kings taxed the public based on their whims and fancies......elected govts may do the same but people still pay up and if they dont agree - they know they have a choice at the next elections.......
and no, i dont deserve to be the CEO - neither do i have a performance track record nor credibility here......should not stop me from voicing a contrarion view though
Thanks sayantan76! we already know that there is less participation from our members.
Nobody here exactly knows why the participation rate is less. Some of reasons could be:
i have my EAD, thats more than enough for me
i am in my I-140 or PERM stage, why should i bother now?
i don't think GC process is a big problem, i am sure i will get one day
i don't care. I will sit and watch others do this for me
I will not blame the core members. I understand their Vision and it aligns with mine. How do you enforce a vision in IV community when the participation is less?
How can any action survive with 100-200 members participation? look at numbersusa and learn from their strengths.
Having said that, i have a few suggestions though. Lets talk to our friends and relativies, understand their concerns/issues and communicate IV's vision to them in a better way and get them to participate.
Lets set some intermediate goals to track our progress.
Lets go IV
i genuinely believe that the core members go above and beyond whats expected to do what they are doing for IV - its truly remarkable...they all have busy lives and it takes great conviction and dedication to take the time out and do this...but why are the people still not responding despite the obvious pitfalls of not acting on GC related initiatives.......
maybe its lethargy, inaction, indifference etc.......but we should be open to considering that just maybe, a vast and silent majority of IVians do not feel a sense of representation in the organization and hence do not react as enthusiastically as they should........legitimacy among the constituents often comes with representation
why did most kingdoms around the world perish and give way to democracies......bcos the kings taxed the public based on their whims and fancies......elected govts may do the same but people still pay up and if they dont agree - they know they have a choice at the next elections.......
and no, i dont deserve to be the CEO - neither do i have a performance track record nor credibility here......should not stop me from voicing a contrarion view though
Thanks sayantan76! we already know that there is less participation from our members.
Nobody here exactly knows why the participation rate is less. Some of reasons could be:
i have my EAD, thats more than enough for me
i am in my I-140 or PERM stage, why should i bother now?
i don't think GC process is a big problem, i am sure i will get one day
i don't care. I will sit and watch others do this for me
I will not blame the core members. I understand their Vision and it aligns with mine. How do you enforce a vision in IV community when the participation is less?
How can any action survive with 100-200 members participation? look at numbersusa and learn from their strengths.
Having said that, i have a few suggestions though. Lets talk to our friends and relativies, understand their concerns/issues and communicate IV's vision to them in a better way and get them to participate.
Lets set some intermediate goals to track our progress.
Lets go IV
Canadianindian
11-25 02:05 PM
Can the spouse not get here own work permit such as H1-B, etc after she come here on a H4?
Also, can she be not added to the GC process at the time te PD becomes current?
How true! In fact not only we have to maintain H1B to be able to "bring" spouses but we have to MAINTAIN H1B until the our PD becomes current to be able to maintain spouse's H4 status.
THIS SUCKS. Is there any thread which discusses this issue in detail?
Also, can she be not added to the GC process at the time te PD becomes current?
How true! In fact not only we have to maintain H1B to be able to "bring" spouses but we have to MAINTAIN H1B until the our PD becomes current to be able to maintain spouse's H4 status.
THIS SUCKS. Is there any thread which discusses this issue in detail?