nyte_crawler
09-25 04:18 PM
trueguy, If you are serious about this, let us create a plan together.
This is what I am proposing. I think just going to the lawmakers with out a strategy or a persuasive presentation will not take us further. This will enable us to atleast show them that we are very serious about this.
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Option 3:Re-intepreting and changing the spill over rule: This can be done without any legislative changes and USCIS can be asked to look on this if we can really force them to.
Steps to execute Option 3:
* Collect and consolidate all the data in a spreadsheet from the latest 485 inventory to the yearly reports of adjudicated cases
* Create a what if analysis for the next 3-5 years for EB2 I and EB3 I
* Create analysis to show what will happen with the old rule and changed interpretation of spill over
* Create a nice presentation
* Contact Senators, congressmen, USCIS and walk them through our presentation
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Agreed. Changing the spillover rule is the easiest in this bad economy.
How about we propose to USCIS/DOS to give spillover based on PD and not based on Category. This way EB3-I and EB2-I will move forward steadily without any fuss. I know initially it will help most of EB3-I but once EB3-I catches up with EB2-I then both can move forward together.
Just a thought. I am sure EB2-I will give me lots of reds but I don't care.
Well, we have to do something. Everybody got ideas but who is working on them? I am ready to send as many letters if needed but I need some help composing that letter bcoz I am not good at writing. Can somebody come forward for that?
This is what I am proposing. I think just going to the lawmakers with out a strategy or a persuasive presentation will not take us further. This will enable us to atleast show them that we are very serious about this.
----------------------
Option 3:Re-intepreting and changing the spill over rule: This can be done without any legislative changes and USCIS can be asked to look on this if we can really force them to.
Steps to execute Option 3:
* Collect and consolidate all the data in a spreadsheet from the latest 485 inventory to the yearly reports of adjudicated cases
* Create a what if analysis for the next 3-5 years for EB2 I and EB3 I
* Create analysis to show what will happen with the old rule and changed interpretation of spill over
* Create a nice presentation
* Contact Senators, congressmen, USCIS and walk them through our presentation
-------------------------
Agreed. Changing the spillover rule is the easiest in this bad economy.
How about we propose to USCIS/DOS to give spillover based on PD and not based on Category. This way EB3-I and EB2-I will move forward steadily without any fuss. I know initially it will help most of EB3-I but once EB3-I catches up with EB2-I then both can move forward together.
Just a thought. I am sure EB2-I will give me lots of reds but I don't care.
Well, we have to do something. Everybody got ideas but who is working on them? I am ready to send as many letters if needed but I need some help composing that letter bcoz I am not good at writing. Can somebody come forward for that?
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doesntmatter
04-11 11:53 PM
Kudh Kare tho balaa ; hum kare tho balaathkaar is what somebody who recently got his/her gc told me - was hard to digest, but true...
"Real", "Worked hard", "law abiding" - done my masters and PhD - I know how people get through. Waa re waa - demanding "justice" - you are just plain jealous of other smart people. Guess its time somebody told you, just because you have a MS or a PhD doesn't make you smarter by default. Even if it did, doesn't mean you get everything first - teenagers behave better than that :) Time to grow up
A lot of Desi Consulting Companies do these kinds of things. They can cook up any resume and any requirement.
Real PHD guys who worked their asses off day and night in trying to publish some worth while papers are not getting consideration for EB1 and these DCC guys with a bachelors in any discipline and 5-7yrs experience can become Multi-national executives and fall under EB1.
Nothing helps us legally working people with US Masters Degrees who have been living as law abiding citizens for years.
One of my friends who did Bachelors with me in India came to US on h1B and actually bought his EB2 Labor back in 2005 through a DCC and now has a GC. He never even told me that he did that. He told me recently after he got his GC.
"Real", "Worked hard", "law abiding" - done my masters and PhD - I know how people get through. Waa re waa - demanding "justice" - you are just plain jealous of other smart people. Guess its time somebody told you, just because you have a MS or a PhD doesn't make you smarter by default. Even if it did, doesn't mean you get everything first - teenagers behave better than that :) Time to grow up
A lot of Desi Consulting Companies do these kinds of things. They can cook up any resume and any requirement.
Real PHD guys who worked their asses off day and night in trying to publish some worth while papers are not getting consideration for EB1 and these DCC guys with a bachelors in any discipline and 5-7yrs experience can become Multi-national executives and fall under EB1.
Nothing helps us legally working people with US Masters Degrees who have been living as law abiding citizens for years.
One of my friends who did Bachelors with me in India came to US on h1B and actually bought his EB2 Labor back in 2005 through a DCC and now has a GC. He never even told me that he did that. He told me recently after he got his GC.
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sheela
10-06 08:40 AM
what does visa bulletin 0f nov 07 mean for the rest of the world?i mean not for india and china.
i am eb2 .current mean what?
Current mean: You should get documents including your medicals, photos, employment verification letterm etc., ready and file AOS at the earliest oppurtunity in nov. good luck
i am eb2 .current mean what?
Current mean: You should get documents including your medicals, photos, employment verification letterm etc., ready and file AOS at the earliest oppurtunity in nov. good luck
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vgayalu
06-19 10:04 PM
People are loosing hope on CIR. For time being Pl. keep CIR aside. It is election year. we are not priority for congress in this election year. Why do not we ask for filing I485 even VISAs are not availble. If we get ability to file I485 tens of thousands of people will get relief.
IV core group please think about this. We know you people are working under great pressure and criticism. I appreciate your patience and affords. Pl. think about my proposal.
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IV core group please think about this. We know you people are working under great pressure and criticism. I appreciate your patience and affords. Pl. think about my proposal.
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senthil1
07-19 07:25 PM
Actually when a person whose PD is current but his FP is not cleared and another person whose Who is having later PD but his FP is cleared then he will get GC(if his PD is within cut off date)
Mainly EB2 candidates will suffer a lot if their application is struck in BEC. People who are having PD of 2005 and 2006 will get GC but those who filed in 2003 are earlier wait a few more years to get GC. This is happening for past 10 years. RIR and Non RIR processing was there beween 1997 to 2002. When any new processing is introduced those who started older process always suffer. I do not know any best solution for those cases. Also it is not possible to reform everything at the same time.
Houston:
let me try to answer your question the best I can. Answers in order:
For all purposes: lets assume 2 examples. Person A PD July 2006 and RD of July2, 2007 and Person B PD April 2006 and RD of July 2, 2007.
1. AOS is processed by a "combination" of RD and PD. As per the current Bulletin BOTH A and B can apply. The Service centres are currently processing September 2006 applications. When they reach July 2, 2007 processing dates, both applications will be picked up and then "thoeretically" they should ask for Visa number for A BEFORE asking a visa number for B as A has an earlier PD.
2. Answered in same question 1 above.
3. If Harry's case gets approved in August 2007 by BEC he WILL NOT be able to apply for I-485 as the July Bulleting is valid only for applicants VALID in july. Just beacuse they are accepting till AUg 17, does not mean people whose LC got approved between Aug 1-17 can apply, becuase they were technically NOT eligible to apply in July.
Does that answer your questions. PM me if you want more detail.
Mainly EB2 candidates will suffer a lot if their application is struck in BEC. People who are having PD of 2005 and 2006 will get GC but those who filed in 2003 are earlier wait a few more years to get GC. This is happening for past 10 years. RIR and Non RIR processing was there beween 1997 to 2002. When any new processing is introduced those who started older process always suffer. I do not know any best solution for those cases. Also it is not possible to reform everything at the same time.
Houston:
let me try to answer your question the best I can. Answers in order:
For all purposes: lets assume 2 examples. Person A PD July 2006 and RD of July2, 2007 and Person B PD April 2006 and RD of July 2, 2007.
1. AOS is processed by a "combination" of RD and PD. As per the current Bulletin BOTH A and B can apply. The Service centres are currently processing September 2006 applications. When they reach July 2, 2007 processing dates, both applications will be picked up and then "thoeretically" they should ask for Visa number for A BEFORE asking a visa number for B as A has an earlier PD.
2. Answered in same question 1 above.
3. If Harry's case gets approved in August 2007 by BEC he WILL NOT be able to apply for I-485 as the July Bulleting is valid only for applicants VALID in july. Just beacuse they are accepting till AUg 17, does not mean people whose LC got approved between Aug 1-17 can apply, becuase they were technically NOT eligible to apply in July.
Does that answer your questions. PM me if you want more detail.
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vdlrao
10-12 11:41 AM
As every one here knows, the visa movements based on how many LC approvals in a perticular period but not based on the previous analasis. After PERM is introduced, most people started applying in EB2 than EB3 because of many reasons.
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nozerd
06-29 09:51 AM
There is one major flaw in your lawyers analysis.
He is correct in saying that they issued 11,111 GC's per monththis year, but however that was under retrogression when dates were so far behind (dates for EB2 and EB3 India hadnt moved for ever). His analysis does not take into account those whose 485's may have been pre approved but were not issued a GC due to date not being current. We are not talking about new applications being approved but those whose applications were already preapproved and just waiting for visa numbers.
Anyway no one knopws what will really happen. Just file as early as possible and leave the rest to luck or divine power. Jo hoga dekha jayega, but this is not the time for tyupical desi procascination.
Very well said.. This will give a little hope to everybody..
Thanks for your post.
QUOTE=shantak]Here is what my attorney has sent regarding the AILA release, i dont know whether to believe him or other attorneys, i think i have no choice but to go with what my attorney says.He has been really good in these kinds ofnotices for the past 3 plus years, hope he is correct even with this.
1)There is no way that USCIS would get away with shutting down filing of EB-1, EB-2 and EB-3 Adjustment filings without a massive class action lawsuit against the agency;
2)The power to determine the availability or non-availability of permanent residence visa numbers rests solely with the Department of State. USCIS rejected the �Other Worker� Adjustments based upon a notice from the Department of State that there were no longer any visa numbers for the category. I recently attended our annual AILA immigration conference and there were members in attendance who had interviewed the Department of State official who sets the priority dates. The understanding was unequivocal that the Department of State office felt the numbers would remain available throughout July, and perhaps, as late as September;
3)At this time, there are 40,000 immigrant visa numbers available for the rest of the fiscal year. This means that in order for the Department of State to issue any kind of notice to USCIS, 40,000 permanent residence petitions would have to be APPROVED prior to the end of July. I am highlighting the word approved, because I need for all of my clients to understand that between June and July, there will a lot more than 40,000 Adjustments filed. However, what determines an immigrant visa number usage is the approval of a permanent residence.
Now let�s go back to simple math: there are 140,000 immigrant visas available per fiscal year. 40,000 visa numbers are available at this time. The fiscal year runs from October 1st through September 30th. That means that in the first 9 months of the fiscal year, the Department of State and USCIS have managed to approve 100,000, which turns out to be 11,111 petitions per month. There is no possible way that USCIS and the Department of State are going to approve almost 4 times the number of permanent residencies in the month of July. The agencies do not have the time, nor do they have the manpower to approve 40,000 petitions within the next 30 days or so. That is the very reason why the Department of State official solely responsible for the priority dates felt pretty good about the availability of visa numbers throughout the month of July when he spoke to my colleagues from AILA.
To be honest with all of you, I was really disappointed in the message from AILA. In the rush to �inform,� they forgot to pause, analyze and really discuss the true possibility that USCIS would be directed by the Department of State to halt receipt of Adjustment of Status petitions. I want my clients to know this: at this point, I am not worried that the visa numbers will not be available throughout July. If I were worried, I would let you know. My responsibility is to guide you through this process and if there is any genuine worry on my part, I will let you know IMMEDIATELY.[/QUOTE]
He is correct in saying that they issued 11,111 GC's per monththis year, but however that was under retrogression when dates were so far behind (dates for EB2 and EB3 India hadnt moved for ever). His analysis does not take into account those whose 485's may have been pre approved but were not issued a GC due to date not being current. We are not talking about new applications being approved but those whose applications were already preapproved and just waiting for visa numbers.
Anyway no one knopws what will really happen. Just file as early as possible and leave the rest to luck or divine power. Jo hoga dekha jayega, but this is not the time for tyupical desi procascination.
Very well said.. This will give a little hope to everybody..
Thanks for your post.
QUOTE=shantak]Here is what my attorney has sent regarding the AILA release, i dont know whether to believe him or other attorneys, i think i have no choice but to go with what my attorney says.He has been really good in these kinds ofnotices for the past 3 plus years, hope he is correct even with this.
1)There is no way that USCIS would get away with shutting down filing of EB-1, EB-2 and EB-3 Adjustment filings without a massive class action lawsuit against the agency;
2)The power to determine the availability or non-availability of permanent residence visa numbers rests solely with the Department of State. USCIS rejected the �Other Worker� Adjustments based upon a notice from the Department of State that there were no longer any visa numbers for the category. I recently attended our annual AILA immigration conference and there were members in attendance who had interviewed the Department of State official who sets the priority dates. The understanding was unequivocal that the Department of State office felt the numbers would remain available throughout July, and perhaps, as late as September;
3)At this time, there are 40,000 immigrant visa numbers available for the rest of the fiscal year. This means that in order for the Department of State to issue any kind of notice to USCIS, 40,000 permanent residence petitions would have to be APPROVED prior to the end of July. I am highlighting the word approved, because I need for all of my clients to understand that between June and July, there will a lot more than 40,000 Adjustments filed. However, what determines an immigrant visa number usage is the approval of a permanent residence.
Now let�s go back to simple math: there are 140,000 immigrant visas available per fiscal year. 40,000 visa numbers are available at this time. The fiscal year runs from October 1st through September 30th. That means that in the first 9 months of the fiscal year, the Department of State and USCIS have managed to approve 100,000, which turns out to be 11,111 petitions per month. There is no possible way that USCIS and the Department of State are going to approve almost 4 times the number of permanent residencies in the month of July. The agencies do not have the time, nor do they have the manpower to approve 40,000 petitions within the next 30 days or so. That is the very reason why the Department of State official solely responsible for the priority dates felt pretty good about the availability of visa numbers throughout the month of July when he spoke to my colleagues from AILA.
To be honest with all of you, I was really disappointed in the message from AILA. In the rush to �inform,� they forgot to pause, analyze and really discuss the true possibility that USCIS would be directed by the Department of State to halt receipt of Adjustment of Status petitions. I want my clients to know this: at this point, I am not worried that the visa numbers will not be available throughout July. If I were worried, I would let you know. My responsibility is to guide you through this process and if there is any genuine worry on my part, I will let you know IMMEDIATELY.[/QUOTE]
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immigc06
06-02 02:06 PM
HI speddi, Can you share the number you have called for the status. I need to call them as well.
Thanks.
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yabadaba
10-12 02:33 PM
gc chahiye.. both polls were excellent.. can you redo them and see if we can get a larger sample size?
I wonder how many of the PD earlier than 2003, I-485 filed and 2004 PD, I-485 filed and 2005 PD, I-485 filed must have gotten gcs in the july fiasco.
I wonder how many of the PD earlier than 2003, I-485 filed and 2004 PD, I-485 filed and 2005 PD, I-485 filed must have gotten gcs in the july fiasco.
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trueguy
04-08 08:21 PM
Hunger strike ?, i dont know my friend, sounds like a neat idea to get attention, but then what happens if its becomes an indefinite hunger strike, i mean i hope you do understand the consequences of that.
I think we are at a stage where people are fed up with the process, but i hope good things happen to people who wait.
Sabar ka phal meetha hota hai :)
Waiting is all we have been doing for so many years. I have been living separately from my wife for last 3 years. When I reached out to Pappu on IV, he refused to do anything for me. I am ready to come forward and talk to media but nobody is here to listen.
I am seriously considering some media awakening event these days, it might be suicide or whatever it takes but this DOS stupidity has to stop. Its affecting so many people's life. I agree GC is not a right that we can demand from US government but they can't treat us like this after investing so many productive years for this Economy.
I think we are at a stage where people are fed up with the process, but i hope good things happen to people who wait.
Sabar ka phal meetha hota hai :)
Waiting is all we have been doing for so many years. I have been living separately from my wife for last 3 years. When I reached out to Pappu on IV, he refused to do anything for me. I am ready to come forward and talk to media but nobody is here to listen.
I am seriously considering some media awakening event these days, it might be suicide or whatever it takes but this DOS stupidity has to stop. Its affecting so many people's life. I agree GC is not a right that we can demand from US government but they can't treat us like this after investing so many productive years for this Economy.
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08-29 08:20 PM
Arun,
Minor correction, these are articulate idiots, just BUSY killing their valuable time arguing among themselves. Why bother them, let them be engaged in a very important discussion. Some of the posts are as idiotic and over-board as The Mad Show.
Is USCIS doesn't give a damn about educational credentials why do they they have EB2 category for Aliens with Advanced Degree, EB1 category for Aliens with Ph.D, Uncapped H1 for Aliens with US degrees etc..
Even Canadian point based Immigration system assigns more points for aliens with advanced degrees.
First of all USCIS is nobody to decide whether or not education credentials mean anything or not. That decision is taken by lawmakers. We all know theer are two kind of lawmakers � Republican & Democrats.
Republicans love the people with money i.e. large employers. Publicly, most Republicans hate everything under the sun. Privately, they would want to love you if you are a gay. These are bunch of idealogs to oppose abortion & gun control, unless you can show them some green and then they will be your best friends. Republicans think God is scared of Gun lobby so God is on their side.
Democrats is the name of another group of idiots. They don�t know what they should do when in spite of all their efforts to not get elected; they are thrown into the Congress as the Majority party. One thing Democrats are good at, they know how to give up majority in the Congress. Publicly, Democrats would pretend that they care for the poor. Privately, they too would want to love you if you are a gay. These are another bunch of idealogs, who, privately, would work day-and-night for the very poor and under-privileged group of people, unless you can show them some green and then they will be your best friends. Democrats think God is scared of US Chamber of commerce, so they only support illegal immigration.
Now, most people in EB backlogs are neither very rich company/big business owners nor the EB applicants are very poor. And to add to that, last time I checked, most EB applicants are not gay, unless the recent poll numbers would suggest otherwise. So how in the world do we expect to get our issues fixed if we are neither rich business owners, can�t pretend to be very poor nor are we gay? I think we are toast�.
As far as EB-1, 2 & 3 is concerned, these categories are created so that some people, as seen on this forum, could just stroke their egos thinking that they are better than others around them. In essence, this is another form of discrimination so that people like you and others could fight on forum like these ;-).
Minor correction, these are articulate idiots, just BUSY killing their valuable time arguing among themselves. Why bother them, let them be engaged in a very important discussion. Some of the posts are as idiotic and over-board as The Mad Show.
Is USCIS doesn't give a damn about educational credentials why do they they have EB2 category for Aliens with Advanced Degree, EB1 category for Aliens with Ph.D, Uncapped H1 for Aliens with US degrees etc..
Even Canadian point based Immigration system assigns more points for aliens with advanced degrees.
First of all USCIS is nobody to decide whether or not education credentials mean anything or not. That decision is taken by lawmakers. We all know theer are two kind of lawmakers � Republican & Democrats.
Republicans love the people with money i.e. large employers. Publicly, most Republicans hate everything under the sun. Privately, they would want to love you if you are a gay. These are bunch of idealogs to oppose abortion & gun control, unless you can show them some green and then they will be your best friends. Republicans think God is scared of Gun lobby so God is on their side.
Democrats is the name of another group of idiots. They don�t know what they should do when in spite of all their efforts to not get elected; they are thrown into the Congress as the Majority party. One thing Democrats are good at, they know how to give up majority in the Congress. Publicly, Democrats would pretend that they care for the poor. Privately, they too would want to love you if you are a gay. These are another bunch of idealogs, who, privately, would work day-and-night for the very poor and under-privileged group of people, unless you can show them some green and then they will be your best friends. Democrats think God is scared of US Chamber of commerce, so they only support illegal immigration.
Now, most people in EB backlogs are neither very rich company/big business owners nor the EB applicants are very poor. And to add to that, last time I checked, most EB applicants are not gay, unless the recent poll numbers would suggest otherwise. So how in the world do we expect to get our issues fixed if we are neither rich business owners, can�t pretend to be very poor nor are we gay? I think we are toast�.
As far as EB-1, 2 & 3 is concerned, these categories are created so that some people, as seen on this forum, could just stroke their egos thinking that they are better than others around them. In essence, this is another form of discrimination so that people like you and others could fight on forum like these ;-).
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yabadaba
06-29 02:55 PM
macaca it does make sense. This si what they are doing...opening up the flood gates and allow for a flood. from this flood they will be able to easily approve 40k cases.
once that is done they will shut the flood gates so that the level starts moving towards equilibirium...with labor substitution ending on july 16th ...the 70k backlog elimination labor aps will be done quick enough.. since many will have redone their LC in PERM..and uscis will have an accurate headcount of people in line from this floodgate opening process.
i dont think we ll see retrogression back to 99... but maybe more mangeable levels
once that is done they will shut the flood gates so that the level starts moving towards equilibirium...with labor substitution ending on july 16th ...the 70k backlog elimination labor aps will be done quick enough.. since many will have redone their LC in PERM..and uscis will have an accurate headcount of people in line from this floodgate opening process.
i dont think we ll see retrogression back to 99... but maybe more mangeable levels
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RandyK
03-27 03:26 PM
If you indicated in your I - 140 that you want to do CP, NVC watches for PDs and when someones PD is about to be current they sent out (packet 3) which is the application packet to start CP. They send this sometimes 6 months before your PD is current.
That is it, if you turn around the application packet soon they will start processing until they are done, and wait for visa number.
You can swich from AOS to CP, but I am not sure about the procedures. There is good information on Ron Gotcher's forum about the CP process.
http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=536
That is it, if you turn around the application packet soon they will start processing until they are done, and wait for visa number.
You can swich from AOS to CP, but I am not sure about the procedures. There is good information on Ron Gotcher's forum about the CP process.
http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=536
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makemygc
06-14 03:13 PM
GC is moving target, looks like some drunkard wakes up one fine morning and randomly moves the priority date value/importance. I know those in such situation may be relatively less in number but I know many who are and repurcussions for this look horrible for people who have not made past this luck test. I was one of the unlucky ones :(. good luck to guys who have moved forward hope you still help rest of us still stuck.
I don't think it's an end of fight for IV or for that matter for us. Ability to file for I485 is just like getting out from one queue and standing in another big one. Once the folks who are stuck in backlog gets their labor will be in front of this big line as you know the priority date counts. Only advantage for the people filing 485 is an EAD, which I know is a big one. With thousands of people filing I485 in July, I believe EAD itself is going to be retrogressed.
So, we should continue to fight for increasing the Visa number and removing the country quota or similar provisions. Now, we might need to re-state our goals as asking to remove retrogression cannot be the one. I know IV core might be thinking in the same line but currently just busy collecting their 485 documents ;) . So hold tight and we should see some plan once this excitement dies down.
FYI, i'm one of those who will be filing 485 in July but really apprehensive about getting EAD in next few months.
So, lets get united and re-organize our priorities and fight for the same cause.
I don't think it's an end of fight for IV or for that matter for us. Ability to file for I485 is just like getting out from one queue and standing in another big one. Once the folks who are stuck in backlog gets their labor will be in front of this big line as you know the priority date counts. Only advantage for the people filing 485 is an EAD, which I know is a big one. With thousands of people filing I485 in July, I believe EAD itself is going to be retrogressed.
So, we should continue to fight for increasing the Visa number and removing the country quota or similar provisions. Now, we might need to re-state our goals as asking to remove retrogression cannot be the one. I know IV core might be thinking in the same line but currently just busy collecting their 485 documents ;) . So hold tight and we should see some plan once this excitement dies down.
FYI, i'm one of those who will be filing 485 in July but really apprehensive about getting EAD in next few months.
So, lets get united and re-organize our priorities and fight for the same cause.
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07-11 07:59 PM
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=f4b3076eb0f93110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=1958b0aaa86fa010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
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m.anderson
05-25 01:00 PM
I would like to join as well. I do have my case number also.
JunRN
10-05 09:53 PM
He/she might have thought why would there be more GC approvals than LC approvals...might have forgotten that there were 50,000 Schedule A visas at that time...Sked A is labor-exempt.
bitu72
01-15 09:53 PM
chintu,
do u work from home or monitor this from office , how do u manage with work.
give some more strategy insights.
do u work from home or monitor this from office , how do u manage with work.
give some more strategy insights.