mjdup
01-18 05:48 PM
In our state chapter meeting one of the idea "is to post ad in the local theatres where Indian movies are being shown" - I bet there are good potential members coming to the movies..
To post in local theatres, the state chapter members have agreed to pitch in and cover the cost rather than requesting from IV core.
To post in local theatres, the state chapter members have agreed to pitch in and cover the cost rather than requesting from IV core.
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kvtH1B
10-17 03:40 PM
Hi Zooom Can you please let me know what you have done in this case.Even i have the same problem.
I'm presently on H4 in US and have got the H1B visa approval(Mostly I would get the I94 and wouldn't require stamping unless i leave USA) . Due to personal reasons I need to travel to India planning to go to India.
I would like to get the visa stamped in Tijuana before I go to India.
I have not yet started working with my employer.Infact I did not get my H1B approval papers yet nor have SSN till now.(approval of H1B is on Oct 16th 2007)
Since October has been crossed and i dont have a paystub(since my approval is late) my question is are there problem if the consulate officer asks about why i have come for stamping even before starting the job (since i have 194) and what if he asks for paystubs as iam going after october 1st.
Can anyone please help?
Thanks in Advance
I'm presently on H4 in US and have got the H1B visa approval(Mostly I would get the I94 and wouldn't require stamping unless i leave USA) . Due to personal reasons I need to travel to India planning to go to India.
I would like to get the visa stamped in Tijuana before I go to India.
I have not yet started working with my employer.Infact I did not get my H1B approval papers yet nor have SSN till now.(approval of H1B is on Oct 16th 2007)
Since October has been crossed and i dont have a paystub(since my approval is late) my question is are there problem if the consulate officer asks about why i have come for stamping even before starting the job (since i have 194) and what if he asks for paystubs as iam going after october 1st.
Can anyone please help?
Thanks in Advance
jonty_11
05-15 03:33 PM
pik randomly and keep calling..just track the ones u alrady called..
its time for action..we need to be succinct in our msg while not offending any groups...So lets follow IV cores lead here and keep calling.
its time for action..we need to be succinct in our msg while not offending any groups...So lets follow IV cores lead here and keep calling.
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gk_2000
03-08 09:09 PM
I know there are plenty of suggestions flying around and here is my 2 cent, it may or may not make too much sense, but here it is.
We can rant about the difficulties of not getting a GC, make emotional pleas of our struggles all day, but nothing talks better than money. In the current scenario nothing will grab more attention if you can show how we contribute to the US govt and the US economy in monetary terms. Nothing else will get the attention of these lawmakers like money can. ;-)
Can we put out some numbers for the lawmakers, in terms of our contribution to federal & state taxes, social security, property taxes and overall economy by way of our purchasing power home, cars, appliances, vacations, etc (all the amount that you spend in the US) and multiply these numbers by the number of folks waiting to get GC or who have the GCs. I am sure when you add all this up it will be a significant number, which is bound to catch some attention. Assuming the majority of us make more than the average American, all these figures will definitely standout.
Also propose a one time fee of $10,000 to apply for GC right away. I am willing to pay this fee if USCIS can grant me a GC or provide us a way to stay and work legally in this country with no tie in to the employer. This could be a significant amount of revenue, especially when all lawmakers are looking to reduce the deficit and raise some income. As it is they are regularly increasing the visa fees to pay for some bill to the other like the 9/11 workers healthcare bill, etc. If a 100,000 folks(not sure how many are there in total) like us cough up $10,000 that could equal 1 billion. May seem small amount compare to the US deficit, but when you add up our total contribution it is significant. This may be totally outlandish, but I think something on this line is worth talking about. Like I said, nothing talks better than money.
Not sure if there have been other similar ideas, but if we can compile a few pages of such information with numbers, graphs, comparative charts etc and hand them out to the lawmakers it may help.
Comments and feedback welcome. May be this is totally a dumb idea, but if the admins think it makes sense willing to discuss and prepare something. Also this post is not meant to begin a debate or to distract us from our goal but just some thoughts.
PS: Have contributed in the past and intend to participate (financially and in person) on the Advocacy day.
Currently GC's are being sold for, more like, 500k (EB5 quota).. maybe we should be haggling to bring that down to 10000 or something, stating "startup" argument, and also the fact that it doesn't really take 500k to open a business that subsequently generates employment in the e-age. Some slogan like "untie our hands" ?
We can rant about the difficulties of not getting a GC, make emotional pleas of our struggles all day, but nothing talks better than money. In the current scenario nothing will grab more attention if you can show how we contribute to the US govt and the US economy in monetary terms. Nothing else will get the attention of these lawmakers like money can. ;-)
Can we put out some numbers for the lawmakers, in terms of our contribution to federal & state taxes, social security, property taxes and overall economy by way of our purchasing power home, cars, appliances, vacations, etc (all the amount that you spend in the US) and multiply these numbers by the number of folks waiting to get GC or who have the GCs. I am sure when you add all this up it will be a significant number, which is bound to catch some attention. Assuming the majority of us make more than the average American, all these figures will definitely standout.
Also propose a one time fee of $10,000 to apply for GC right away. I am willing to pay this fee if USCIS can grant me a GC or provide us a way to stay and work legally in this country with no tie in to the employer. This could be a significant amount of revenue, especially when all lawmakers are looking to reduce the deficit and raise some income. As it is they are regularly increasing the visa fees to pay for some bill to the other like the 9/11 workers healthcare bill, etc. If a 100,000 folks(not sure how many are there in total) like us cough up $10,000 that could equal 1 billion. May seem small amount compare to the US deficit, but when you add up our total contribution it is significant. This may be totally outlandish, but I think something on this line is worth talking about. Like I said, nothing talks better than money.
Not sure if there have been other similar ideas, but if we can compile a few pages of such information with numbers, graphs, comparative charts etc and hand them out to the lawmakers it may help.
Comments and feedback welcome. May be this is totally a dumb idea, but if the admins think it makes sense willing to discuss and prepare something. Also this post is not meant to begin a debate or to distract us from our goal but just some thoughts.
PS: Have contributed in the past and intend to participate (financially and in person) on the Advocacy day.
Currently GC's are being sold for, more like, 500k (EB5 quota).. maybe we should be haggling to bring that down to 10000 or something, stating "startup" argument, and also the fact that it doesn't really take 500k to open a business that subsequently generates employment in the e-age. Some slogan like "untie our hands" ?
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perm2gc
12-13 04:27 PM
Just posted in our alumni group...hope to see some memberships.
speddi
06-02 02:11 PM
it seems lot of people who filed between 4/15 and 4/31 have this problem..others seem to get the approvals in quick time.
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srikondoji
09-21 02:04 PM
sure.
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next time remember that :D
ok man..next rally you can have one on me!
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cricusdw
05-21 12:26 PM
hi,
i am on h-4 visa,and my i94 is expired more than 180 days,i.e my husband had i-94 till cotober 2007,but the port of entry stamped on my passport upto2006 october,we dint no about i-94 until we had seenit,it expired more than 180 days,our attorny said to extend it but it has already expired,so we thought to go local uscis and request about the case,we were really teansed about that,next morning we went to local uscis office , the officer was really good person ,just he took my husbands i-94 and my i-94 ,and changed the form with my husbands i-94 untill 2007 oct,by gods grace every thing goes well,so if anybody has the similar problem on h-4 visa just go to local uscis office and explain the problem to the officer.
i am on h-4 visa,and my i94 is expired more than 180 days,i.e my husband had i-94 till cotober 2007,but the port of entry stamped on my passport upto2006 october,we dint no about i-94 until we had seenit,it expired more than 180 days,our attorny said to extend it but it has already expired,so we thought to go local uscis and request about the case,we were really teansed about that,next morning we went to local uscis office , the officer was really good person ,just he took my husbands i-94 and my i-94 ,and changed the form with my husbands i-94 untill 2007 oct,by gods grace every thing goes well,so if anybody has the similar problem on h-4 visa just go to local uscis office and explain the problem to the officer.
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perm2gc
06-29 05:25 PM
Are the attorneys and law firms spreading rumors about
EB retogression on July 2nd ?
Cynical view:
May be they hope to discourage other people from filing this
weekend?
Non-cynical view:
May be they everyone is nervous and gone insane?:D
one more nail on our coffin :D
EB retogression on July 2nd ?
Cynical view:
May be they hope to discourage other people from filing this
weekend?
Non-cynical view:
May be they everyone is nervous and gone insane?:D
one more nail on our coffin :D
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sdrblr
09-02 09:43 AM
I beg to differ from your point of view that approvals are on PD. If you take a good look at the PDs of approved cases posted here, you will there are many post July 04 (mostly in Oct and Dec 04) and we all know there are many before that.
They are clearly going by ND. I have seen 1/2 case approved that had ND after 8/30/07
High number of approvals over the first few days were expected. Centers review/preadjudicate cases based on 'real' receive dates (which are close to notice dates), as physical files are sorted in that sequence. That is happening. Sept VB was available couple of weeks ago, which prepared them to issue formal approvals as soon as September starts. USCIS SOP describes that once cases are preadjudicated they are shelved (wating for visa) in sequence of PD's. Therefore, most approvals are preadjudicated cases.
Congratulations to All who got approved. Best wishes to those still counting. If you ND is not too far from published dates (i.e. it is sometime in Aug/Sep/Oct 07), and your PD is high, there is very high chance of you getting a good news soon.
They are clearly going by ND. I have seen 1/2 case approved that had ND after 8/30/07
High number of approvals over the first few days were expected. Centers review/preadjudicate cases based on 'real' receive dates (which are close to notice dates), as physical files are sorted in that sequence. That is happening. Sept VB was available couple of weeks ago, which prepared them to issue formal approvals as soon as September starts. USCIS SOP describes that once cases are preadjudicated they are shelved (wating for visa) in sequence of PD's. Therefore, most approvals are preadjudicated cases.
Congratulations to All who got approved. Best wishes to those still counting. If you ND is not too far from published dates (i.e. it is sometime in Aug/Sep/Oct 07), and your PD is high, there is very high chance of you getting a good news soon.
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RLNY122004
02-02 02:48 PM
I contributed $25 today.
Paypal Receipt Number: 2219-5554-0313-6720
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shirish
02-02 01:36 PM
Amendment ka number bol bhaya.
English ( Please state the Amendment Bill Number)
I think these 4 co-sponsorer' were for SA 187, which di dnot have anything to do with US. It was Sen Edward Kennedy, who introduced SA180 with EB remons provisions.
English ( Please state the Amendment Bill Number)
I think these 4 co-sponsorer' were for SA 187, which di dnot have anything to do with US. It was Sen Edward Kennedy, who introduced SA180 with EB remons provisions.
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amitjoey
01-03 06:46 PM
I thought, 15000 members was a small goal. But I guess we have to start with even smaller goals. I agree with Amit.
There's too much at stake to give up this campaign. Without membership, we are a weak bunch. To fight organized campaigns by groups such as Numbersusa we need the member strength.
Let us aim for 8000 members by Jan 15th. Current membership stands at 7919. We need just 80 members to reach the 8000 mark. If 10% of the current membership brings ONE member by Jan 15th, we can easily reach that target. With 300000 immigrants in this kind of quagmire, cant we get 80 people? I believe we can.
Let's join hands one more time and try to Add just ONE member by Jan15th. It is for our own sakes we will be doing it, so let's do it!!!
Admins,
Please send out an email (monthly newsletter) to all members informing them about this campaign.
Thank you.
Neelu
Current membership is very close to 8000. Lets decide to do take this seriously. We need to be 10,000 + soon.
There's too much at stake to give up this campaign. Without membership, we are a weak bunch. To fight organized campaigns by groups such as Numbersusa we need the member strength.
Let us aim for 8000 members by Jan 15th. Current membership stands at 7919. We need just 80 members to reach the 8000 mark. If 10% of the current membership brings ONE member by Jan 15th, we can easily reach that target. With 300000 immigrants in this kind of quagmire, cant we get 80 people? I believe we can.
Let's join hands one more time and try to Add just ONE member by Jan15th. It is for our own sakes we will be doing it, so let's do it!!!
Admins,
Please send out an email (monthly newsletter) to all members informing them about this campaign.
Thank you.
Neelu
Current membership is very close to 8000. Lets decide to do take this seriously. We need to be 10,000 + soon.
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saro28
04-01 09:30 PM
I received my passport exactly in 16 days. I sent $70, they sent only 36 page passport instead of 50. I am going to email for $10 refund!
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abhishek101
05-16 04:13 PM
Your lawyer is right I am not clear why but I work for a big company and even my lawyere told me that.
The labor is location specific. When you are working for a company and If you applied GC for the same job you are doing then there is no concept of Future employment. You are holding the job.
The only way as far as I understand is repllalying for Labor and 140 from current location and transferring your Priority Date.
The labor is location specific. When you are working for a company and If you applied GC for the same job you are doing then there is no concept of Future employment. You are holding the job.
The only way as far as I understand is repllalying for Labor and 140 from current location and transferring your Priority Date.
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RajForGC
02-22 10:53 AM
Thank you all for response and suggestions, my company and attorney is already in Process of filling 2nd PERM for EB2 with different postion, I talked with my attoreny yesterday and told him about possibility of AUDIT, he told me :not to worry about it: we have all of the docs and reason to apply 2nd PERM without withdrawing 1st Approved PERM for EB3. So he said nothing to loose from our side, if audited then matter of time.
Thanks Again
Thanks Again
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QuickGreenCard
02-11 11:57 PM
I mailed my passport for renewal to CGI Houston a week before it expired and it came back with a new passport in 2 weeks. I was able to talk to two people. Its very hard to get them on the phone....but yet I kept trying.
The address on the form is kind of confusing. They do not tell in the on-line application that they are expecting an Indian address and a US address unless you print it and see for yourself.
The address on the form is kind of confusing. They do not tell in the on-line application that they are expecting an Indian address and a US address unless you print it and see for yourself.
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sanju_dba
07-13 03:12 PM
let me take a guess - at the minimum - 2 years for your PD and 4-5 years for my PD.
For you and me isnt it < 1year?
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going by using unused visa from worldwide allocation within the category ie eb3 for 2011 year, 42.6k visas will help clearing off 9356 peinding cases till Jan 2003?
Am I missing anything?
Why eb2 were processed with 7K cases worldwide and only 700 for eb3 worldwide?
If 42600 / 4 = 10650 cases can be processed per quarter in eb3 , why only 700 were processed?
For you and me isnt it < 1year?
485 Inventory (http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Green%20Card/Green%20Card%20Through%20a%20Job/Employment%20Based%20I-485%20Pending%20Inventory%20as%20of%20May%2027%202 010.pdf)
going by using unused visa from worldwide allocation within the category ie eb3 for 2011 year, 42.6k visas will help clearing off 9356 peinding cases till Jan 2003?
Am I missing anything?
Why eb2 were processed with 7K cases worldwide and only 700 for eb3 worldwide?
If 42600 / 4 = 10650 cases can be processed per quarter in eb3 , why only 700 were processed?
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breddy2000
01-15 01:56 AM
Based on my exprience I would like to share my knowledge on Investing and Trading on how the market works.May help you better understand the market dynamics
1.) 99% of stocks have wild swings up or down during the Pre market or After Market where most of the retail investors do not have the previledge of buying/selling. Usually the swings are very fast (in a matter or minutes or seconds). This is the place where most of the money is made or lost.This usually happens based on news like Earnings, sector updates or analyst upgrades/downgrades.
2.) Always stick with Market Leaders in a sector while putting your money in trading/investing. This is because the risk of loss is minimal.
3.) Never touch penny stocks or stocks with very low $ value. Reason being this is where most of the manipulations happen. Stocks going up or down wildly based on no news. This is called a pump and dump strategy used by the Hedge funds. They are meant to deceive the retail investors into buying or selling stocks or for cleaning up the placed stop loss points.
Since Hedge funds have huge money power, they can play with the stocks using multiple strategies that make them money.
Here is a scenario.... Lets say a particular Hedge Fund want to make the price of a stock to go up/down to make profit,They are usually combined with Options. Lets say I have a Million dollar and I want to make 20% on a particular trade assuming a stock with current value of $50(Remember more money means, more buying power and more volume which dictates price action). I would short a stock with 750 K dollars and buy lots of put options on that stock with remaning 250k. Shorting usually means trader making a bet that the stock price is not worth the current price and is expecting it to buy at a lower price(called short covering).
When a stock is shorted with huge money(mind you hedge funds have of tons of money and they have stock value controlling power).The price of the stock they expect it to go down to lets say $40(be it clean up of most of the stop losses people have placed,or creating a scenario of fear. People panic and sell it and there by still reducing the price to lets say $35.
So here Hedge fund manipulators have made whooping $15 per contract(1 contract is 100 shares) multiplied by the number of put options bought.(Options do not cost as much as a stock and they make more money than a stock on a % base ranging from 100% to 10,000% )
Once the share price goes to $35 they cover the short position and go long on the stock buying it at $35. Later once the stock price goes back to $50 they made profit both ways while making the stock price go down and back to its original value $50.
When they do this, these are usually associated with Analyst downgrades/upgrades. When the news hits, they execute the trade, there by making it look real.
Also most of the Analysts are Hedge Fund buddies and are paid for these kind of favours and of get caught , they are penalized with penalty. Its nothing compared to what they actually make.
3.) Never trust Analysts blindly. Example Goldman Sacs had predicted the Oil price to go to $200 when the price was at $147 peak in mid 2008. Today the price is at $38. Its very rare to find unbaised Analysts. Every one out there on Wall Street are meant to make money by hook or cook..Always do your own DD(due deligence) based on sector trend, financial statements, p/e etc.
Analysts are just MBA graduates(not that I have a low opinion about the profession), they usually lack the technical knowledge about the Industry they deal with. Its better to trust company's management as they are obligated to release news to public based on SEC rules and regulations and they are less likely to deceive (and pls dont shoot me down about Satyam's taking example of Satyam's management)
4.) Never fall prey to recommendation of any stocks by media. Example Motley fool , market street etc. They pump news so frequently which makes your head spin, cau se they never stick to their words. What they say today will be exactly opposite of what they might say tomorrow.Today's sell could be tomorrows buy.
5.) Always use caution when trading on the day prior to earnings. Have a close look at how other companies performed in the same sector.
If a company announces excellent results and the stock price shoots, then related companies will follow the suit. Example, lets say Walmart had very good earnings, then Kmart or JC penny might shoot up based on Walmart news. And since not all companies announce the results on the same day, its better to see the chart before making a bet on the stock price before earnings release.
I still have tons and tons of info ...These are just the tip of ice berg scenarios.
Will share more later.
If others can add to this list based on your experiences ,that would be great....
Money is there in the Market to be made which looks like its pretty easy from outside, but based on the above discussed constraints, do you really feel its easy ?????
There is no "silver bullet" strategy that can work always, be it technical or fundamental and you cannot make money on each and every trade. If it would have been the case, I would have simply built an automated system based on my strategy that will sound like a "Money Making machine"
Last but not the least, While Cintu25 is trying to make you money with his good intention, I'm trying to share my experience on how to better manage risks.....
1.) 99% of stocks have wild swings up or down during the Pre market or After Market where most of the retail investors do not have the previledge of buying/selling. Usually the swings are very fast (in a matter or minutes or seconds). This is the place where most of the money is made or lost.This usually happens based on news like Earnings, sector updates or analyst upgrades/downgrades.
2.) Always stick with Market Leaders in a sector while putting your money in trading/investing. This is because the risk of loss is minimal.
3.) Never touch penny stocks or stocks with very low $ value. Reason being this is where most of the manipulations happen. Stocks going up or down wildly based on no news. This is called a pump and dump strategy used by the Hedge funds. They are meant to deceive the retail investors into buying or selling stocks or for cleaning up the placed stop loss points.
Since Hedge funds have huge money power, they can play with the stocks using multiple strategies that make them money.
Here is a scenario.... Lets say a particular Hedge Fund want to make the price of a stock to go up/down to make profit,They are usually combined with Options. Lets say I have a Million dollar and I want to make 20% on a particular trade assuming a stock with current value of $50(Remember more money means, more buying power and more volume which dictates price action). I would short a stock with 750 K dollars and buy lots of put options on that stock with remaning 250k. Shorting usually means trader making a bet that the stock price is not worth the current price and is expecting it to buy at a lower price(called short covering).
When a stock is shorted with huge money(mind you hedge funds have of tons of money and they have stock value controlling power).The price of the stock they expect it to go down to lets say $40(be it clean up of most of the stop losses people have placed,or creating a scenario of fear. People panic and sell it and there by still reducing the price to lets say $35.
So here Hedge fund manipulators have made whooping $15 per contract(1 contract is 100 shares) multiplied by the number of put options bought.(Options do not cost as much as a stock and they make more money than a stock on a % base ranging from 100% to 10,000% )
Once the share price goes to $35 they cover the short position and go long on the stock buying it at $35. Later once the stock price goes back to $50 they made profit both ways while making the stock price go down and back to its original value $50.
When they do this, these are usually associated with Analyst downgrades/upgrades. When the news hits, they execute the trade, there by making it look real.
Also most of the Analysts are Hedge Fund buddies and are paid for these kind of favours and of get caught , they are penalized with penalty. Its nothing compared to what they actually make.
3.) Never trust Analysts blindly. Example Goldman Sacs had predicted the Oil price to go to $200 when the price was at $147 peak in mid 2008. Today the price is at $38. Its very rare to find unbaised Analysts. Every one out there on Wall Street are meant to make money by hook or cook..Always do your own DD(due deligence) based on sector trend, financial statements, p/e etc.
Analysts are just MBA graduates(not that I have a low opinion about the profession), they usually lack the technical knowledge about the Industry they deal with. Its better to trust company's management as they are obligated to release news to public based on SEC rules and regulations and they are less likely to deceive (and pls dont shoot me down about Satyam's taking example of Satyam's management)
4.) Never fall prey to recommendation of any stocks by media. Example Motley fool , market street etc. They pump news so frequently which makes your head spin, cau se they never stick to their words. What they say today will be exactly opposite of what they might say tomorrow.Today's sell could be tomorrows buy.
5.) Always use caution when trading on the day prior to earnings. Have a close look at how other companies performed in the same sector.
If a company announces excellent results and the stock price shoots, then related companies will follow the suit. Example, lets say Walmart had very good earnings, then Kmart or JC penny might shoot up based on Walmart news. And since not all companies announce the results on the same day, its better to see the chart before making a bet on the stock price before earnings release.
I still have tons and tons of info ...These are just the tip of ice berg scenarios.
Will share more later.
If others can add to this list based on your experiences ,that would be great....
Money is there in the Market to be made which looks like its pretty easy from outside, but based on the above discussed constraints, do you really feel its easy ?????
There is no "silver bullet" strategy that can work always, be it technical or fundamental and you cannot make money on each and every trade. If it would have been the case, I would have simply built an automated system based on my strategy that will sound like a "Money Making machine"
Last but not the least, While Cintu25 is trying to make you money with his good intention, I'm trying to share my experience on how to better manage risks.....
vsrinir
04-09 10:22 AM
If you read my any previous posts and to repeat, there will be no issue to contribute from me or most of us here. We need an action item. Anyone with minimum common knowledge here sees there is no change in dates for the last 6 months, or even last few years. You seem to be a strong supporter of contributions, can you list one action item which we planned to take up in the last or in near future that addresses our concerns of backlogs. Now dont come back and tell me or send me a picture of July 07 campaign or your 12th grade or 10th grade marksheet. We need to be doing things of our interest EVERY single day. I do my job very good.. I know.. but I have to keep doing it everyday if I have to keep it. Similarly unless you put continuous efforts, you wont get continuous results.
If you want a reply to your post from me again, come back with an action item that you see as planned.
I agree with this and he is right!!!!!!!
If you want a reply to your post from me again, come back with an action item that you see as planned.
I agree with this and he is right!!!!!!!
GCKaIntezar
05-15 12:13 PM
Which is better-
A. Working and traveling on h1b (stamping at the consulate needed every year)
OR
B. Working on EAD and traveling on AP (EAD and AP to be renewed every year)
Any insights would be graetly appreciated.
A. Working and traveling on h1b (stamping at the consulate needed every year)
OR
B. Working on EAD and traveling on AP (EAD and AP to be renewed every year)
Any insights would be graetly appreciated.