TheOmbudsman
08-30 05:15 PM
Since you asked what I am exactly doing here:
I am not here to discuss illegal immigration. I am here to discuss how we can put acceptable proposals out there so we can all get out of this mess, or at least get out of here a little faster !
Folks, allow me to tell you that we cannot succeed in this fight if our strategy remains wrong. By no means we shall find ourselves supporting what is against public opinion in our host country, which is now America. You guys from time to time, now what is called senior members from IV, pst phrases which may be PERCEIVED as an attempt to disguise the status of illegal aliens movement. Undocumented immigration simply doesn't exist. There are numerous ways one can find oneself without documents. I outlined an example before. "Immigrant" is not the correct designation if you never immigrated here. Start by showing our alignment with this country by using the correct term. We may be better accepted that way. By the way, wake up, is in major part thanks to the illegal aliens that many of us are stuck.
Tomorrow you can go to India as an immigrant. The day that you find yourself pushing for more immigration than Indians want, it is the day you will not be welcome in that lovely country anymore. Italy is a sweet country, but people are fed up with immigration there. How about France ? America is next. The lack of sympathy for immigration is in the air. Which are our chances to fight against it just because we conceal our proposals ? Minimal.
Sure. Do you want another one ?
immigrant
Main Entry: im�mi�grant
Pronunciation: 'i-m&-gr&nt
Function: noun
: one that immigrates : as a : a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence b : a plant or animal that becomes established in an area where it was previously unknown
I was amused by..."Undocumented is someone who had documents, but lost them"...Bravo...!!
I am not here to discuss illegal immigration. I am here to discuss how we can put acceptable proposals out there so we can all get out of this mess, or at least get out of here a little faster !
Folks, allow me to tell you that we cannot succeed in this fight if our strategy remains wrong. By no means we shall find ourselves supporting what is against public opinion in our host country, which is now America. You guys from time to time, now what is called senior members from IV, pst phrases which may be PERCEIVED as an attempt to disguise the status of illegal aliens movement. Undocumented immigration simply doesn't exist. There are numerous ways one can find oneself without documents. I outlined an example before. "Immigrant" is not the correct designation if you never immigrated here. Start by showing our alignment with this country by using the correct term. We may be better accepted that way. By the way, wake up, is in major part thanks to the illegal aliens that many of us are stuck.
Tomorrow you can go to India as an immigrant. The day that you find yourself pushing for more immigration than Indians want, it is the day you will not be welcome in that lovely country anymore. Italy is a sweet country, but people are fed up with immigration there. How about France ? America is next. The lack of sympathy for immigration is in the air. Which are our chances to fight against it just because we conceal our proposals ? Minimal.
Sure. Do you want another one ?
immigrant
Main Entry: im�mi�grant
Pronunciation: 'i-m&-gr&nt
Function: noun
: one that immigrates : as a : a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence b : a plant or animal that becomes established in an area where it was previously unknown
I was amused by..."Undocumented is someone who had documents, but lost them"...Bravo...!!
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gc_on_demand
09-22 01:18 PM
Let us keep Optimism and keep trying. So think positive and hope for results to be positive also.
I dont see same info at given link ? did they take it out ?
I dont see same info at given link ? did they take it out ?
sanju_dba
06-25 03:06 PM
1) Sep 16 2007 to Apr 2008 is > 6months so you cannot apply for 797
renewal to get a new i94 indirectly.
2) Currently your status is H1 , if you use AP then ur status will becom Parolee and if you use EAD then "???"
I think of these solutions...
1) Exit and Enter the country to match with your 797 dates.
or
2) Talk to your employer ,find a temporary employer to switch your h1 and switch back to your current employer. ( do premium if necessary ).
renewal to get a new i94 indirectly.
2) Currently your status is H1 , if you use AP then ur status will becom Parolee and if you use EAD then "???"
I think of these solutions...
1) Exit and Enter the country to match with your 797 dates.
or
2) Talk to your employer ,find a temporary employer to switch your h1 and switch back to your current employer. ( do premium if necessary ).
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ssingh92
02-24 11:03 PM
Hello,
In all the stories of INS, USCIS, DHS that I've read here, the lack of visibility, customer service and accountability seem to be the common theme.
However, I was pleasantly surprized by a call from IO a few weeks back in local office asking me for extra documents (Current employment letter as the original one was from 2007, 2007 tax returns and 2007/08 W-2).
He told me that though he had sent a letter, the letter would take a few days to reach and hence he wanted to call me up. He also told me that as my original fingerprints are expiring on 26th Feb, I should send the response as soon as possible to enable him to process the application.
Though I still don't have any extra hope that the application will be processed soon, it was nice to see a change in USCIS approach.
Hope this was not an exception to rule and we see more such behavior from USCIS that helps in clearing us from this awkward limbo situation.
They might thinking to deport you asap!!!!!!!! Just kidding!!! I dont have much hope from these guys. My finger print medical expired last year and I didn't get any letter or call.
Anyway having + Attitude and is good thing.
In all the stories of INS, USCIS, DHS that I've read here, the lack of visibility, customer service and accountability seem to be the common theme.
However, I was pleasantly surprized by a call from IO a few weeks back in local office asking me for extra documents (Current employment letter as the original one was from 2007, 2007 tax returns and 2007/08 W-2).
He told me that though he had sent a letter, the letter would take a few days to reach and hence he wanted to call me up. He also told me that as my original fingerprints are expiring on 26th Feb, I should send the response as soon as possible to enable him to process the application.
Though I still don't have any extra hope that the application will be processed soon, it was nice to see a change in USCIS approach.
Hope this was not an exception to rule and we see more such behavior from USCIS that helps in clearing us from this awkward limbo situation.
They might thinking to deport you asap!!!!!!!! Just kidding!!! I dont have much hope from these guys. My finger print medical expired last year and I didn't get any letter or call.
Anyway having + Attitude and is good thing.
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DCQC
09-21 01:29 PM
Can someone tell me if USCIS is sending EAD cards to home address or to the lawyers? Response appreciated...Thanks!
ebizash
02-10 02:03 PM
And one obvious and major difference is hassle going out of the country and getting back in.
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gcwanter
03-02 01:16 PM
is it even legal for you to pay for G.C.
by law i think your company should pay for all G.C. related expenses..
correct me if i am wrong
who pays for GC nowadays? people are paying for their own H1B's. count urself lucky if your company is paying for you. most of the cases we are paying and being treated like BS from both lawyer and company in GC matter
by law i think your company should pay for all G.C. related expenses..
correct me if i am wrong
who pays for GC nowadays? people are paying for their own H1B's. count urself lucky if your company is paying for you. most of the cases we are paying and being treated like BS from both lawyer and company in GC matter
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sorcerer666
11-15 03:08 PM
I think 'STEM" is the word here :D and include people from an "accredited" US university and not something like Trivalley University
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Macaca
01-26 04:21 PM
Many people that have contributed earlier feel that by prioritizing the 485 filing over increase of EB visas, IV has gone away from atleast some of stakeholders .The stakeholders were promised initially that increase of EB visas would be a top priority or atleast on a even keel with any other objectives, but now we are in phased approach.I have talked to lot of people and the feeling is same.
Suppose IV decides not to focus on I-485 filing but some other issue. By this analogy, all members with interest in I-485 will leave.
Suppose IV decides not to focus on I-485 filing but some other issue. By this analogy, all members with interest in I-485 will leave.
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sertasheep
07-05 04:04 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST ALL MEMBERS TO UPDATE THEIR PROFILES WITH NAME, TELEPHONE NUMBER(MOST RELIABLE) AND EMAIL ADDRESSES ALONG WITH CURRENT GC STATUS AND CLASS OF ADMISSION
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humdesi
01-19 01:02 AM
Anybody seen layoffs in software industry anywhere recently?
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chanduv23
07-13 01:56 PM
A RALLY IS BEING UNDERTAKEN IN SAN JOSE TOMORROW. PLEASE CHANNELIZE ALL YOUR POSITIVE ENERGY IN ACCOMPLISHING THIS TASK.
DONT WASTE TIME ON NEGATIVE ENERGY.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10086
DONT WASTE TIME ON NEGATIVE ENERGY.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10086
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willigetgc?
02-24 08:27 PM
basically, there are lot of people on the other site, who don't want to join iv but participate:) they think that they might be accidentally causing a benefit to iv by joining iv:)
Priceless!
Speechless!
Such attitude is Worthless! How confident should we be that they will stick to the message and not go of on tangent in the meeting? It may be better off not to have them.
If people believe a cause is worthwhile and will benefit them, they will come - and registering will not be an issue for them.
If people don't want to do the heavy lifting, they will give any excuse - including registering as the detractor to join the cause. The change has to come from within and cannot be forced. You can talk to a person who has a question on what needs to be done during the advocacy days, you can talk to a person who has doubts - if he/she can be reasoned with, but you are wasting time with people who have no intention of participating to begin with!
Priceless!
Speechless!
Such attitude is Worthless! How confident should we be that they will stick to the message and not go of on tangent in the meeting? It may be better off not to have them.
If people believe a cause is worthwhile and will benefit them, they will come - and registering will not be an issue for them.
If people don't want to do the heavy lifting, they will give any excuse - including registering as the detractor to join the cause. The change has to come from within and cannot be forced. You can talk to a person who has a question on what needs to be done during the advocacy days, you can talk to a person who has doubts - if he/she can be reasoned with, but you are wasting time with people who have no intention of participating to begin with!
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kondur_007
08-13 04:20 PM
Hi guys,
I dont want to duplicate, but I think following "cut and paste" from my previous post may be a fair thing to do; just for the information.
I am not a lawyer; but this is what I believe to the best of my knowledge:
1. If you never used AC21 (still working with the employer who sponsored I 140); your obligation at the time of GC approval is to have a "good faith intention to work with the same employer permanently". It is not clear in the law as to how would you prove that intention...most people say that you should work for some duration (6 months or 12 months at least...or something like that) after GC is approved to "show" your good faith intention.
2. If you ported to employer B using AC 21 (before the approval of GC); you have the same obligation to the new employer B and NO obligation to original I 140 sponsoring employer. (this is especially true if you informed USCIS of your porting and also true if you did not inform USCIS but law is less clear in the later scenario)
There is really no law that specifies the duration.
All it says is :"you should have intention to work for the GC sponsoring employer (or AC21 employer if you ported) permanently."
Intention is a state of mind and it can change!! also all these employments are at will, and so it is possible that you may not like that job! Or on the other hand employer may not like you and fire you in a week.
Bottomline: You will be fine under most circumstances. However, if the issue is raised at the time of naturalization, it would be much easier for you to explain/show that you did have intention to work for the employer if you actually work for the sponsoring employer for some duration (6 months, 1 year...all these are arbitrary numbers).
If you never worked for the sponsoring employer, you may not have a lot of grounds to show that entire GC was not a fraud...
Again, there is no clear law on this...
followup post:
I think there is a mix up here between two things:
180 day clock does start on the first day after filing 485, but that is for the purpose of AC21. Once you use AC21, then the next employer assumes the role of "your future permanent employer" and you should have "intent to permanently work for that(new, not the sponsoring) employer" AT the time of GC approval.
If you use change the employers 7 times using AC21 before your GC gets approved; you should have "intent to work permanently for the latest employer".
You are not bonded slaves. The only issue is that the "burden of proof" of proving the intent to work for such and such employer is on the GC beneficiary and not on USCIS. So in future, if USCIS questions (or CBP questions), it is YOU who has to prove that intent.
One scenario where you WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROVE IT: if you never worked for the sponsoring employer.
One scenario where you WILL NOT HAVE A PROBLEM PROVING IT: if you worked with sponsoring (or latest AC21) employer after GC approval for some duration (60 days?? 90 days?? 6 months?? 1 year??)...no law on this.
This is the whole purpose of Labor Certification process and I140. And it applies to the categories of EB2 (except NIW) and EB3--any category that requires LC.
This is from my discussion in following thread:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=20403
I just put it here so that everyone would not have to try the link and may be this information is useful to someone.
Good Luck.
I dont want to duplicate, but I think following "cut and paste" from my previous post may be a fair thing to do; just for the information.
I am not a lawyer; but this is what I believe to the best of my knowledge:
1. If you never used AC21 (still working with the employer who sponsored I 140); your obligation at the time of GC approval is to have a "good faith intention to work with the same employer permanently". It is not clear in the law as to how would you prove that intention...most people say that you should work for some duration (6 months or 12 months at least...or something like that) after GC is approved to "show" your good faith intention.
2. If you ported to employer B using AC 21 (before the approval of GC); you have the same obligation to the new employer B and NO obligation to original I 140 sponsoring employer. (this is especially true if you informed USCIS of your porting and also true if you did not inform USCIS but law is less clear in the later scenario)
There is really no law that specifies the duration.
All it says is :"you should have intention to work for the GC sponsoring employer (or AC21 employer if you ported) permanently."
Intention is a state of mind and it can change!! also all these employments are at will, and so it is possible that you may not like that job! Or on the other hand employer may not like you and fire you in a week.
Bottomline: You will be fine under most circumstances. However, if the issue is raised at the time of naturalization, it would be much easier for you to explain/show that you did have intention to work for the employer if you actually work for the sponsoring employer for some duration (6 months, 1 year...all these are arbitrary numbers).
If you never worked for the sponsoring employer, you may not have a lot of grounds to show that entire GC was not a fraud...
Again, there is no clear law on this...
followup post:
I think there is a mix up here between two things:
180 day clock does start on the first day after filing 485, but that is for the purpose of AC21. Once you use AC21, then the next employer assumes the role of "your future permanent employer" and you should have "intent to permanently work for that(new, not the sponsoring) employer" AT the time of GC approval.
If you use change the employers 7 times using AC21 before your GC gets approved; you should have "intent to work permanently for the latest employer".
You are not bonded slaves. The only issue is that the "burden of proof" of proving the intent to work for such and such employer is on the GC beneficiary and not on USCIS. So in future, if USCIS questions (or CBP questions), it is YOU who has to prove that intent.
One scenario where you WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROVE IT: if you never worked for the sponsoring employer.
One scenario where you WILL NOT HAVE A PROBLEM PROVING IT: if you worked with sponsoring (or latest AC21) employer after GC approval for some duration (60 days?? 90 days?? 6 months?? 1 year??)...no law on this.
This is the whole purpose of Labor Certification process and I140. And it applies to the categories of EB2 (except NIW) and EB3--any category that requires LC.
This is from my discussion in following thread:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=20403
I just put it here so that everyone would not have to try the link and may be this information is useful to someone.
Good Luck.
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abhijitp
03-31 01:43 PM
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absaarkhan
01-18 10:26 AM
Yes Years 2001-2002 Were Worst years i have seen.
From 2003 Market is picked up very well.
Lets see what is in store for us in 2008.
According to OH Law:
In the election year, pro-immigration political platform constitutes a political liability as witnessed in the current national presidential debates, which turns the country into a strong anti-immigration environment. Consequently, the immigrants will continuously suffer from the seriously broken immigration system. Under the circumstances, people seek the administrative solutions and relief by the immigration-related agencies. However, the hostile political environment tends to work against such decisions for the government agencies as any pro-immigration administration policy may be considered a political liability for the ruling party. It is indeed a difficult time for immigrants. The USCIS has announced that it was working on issuing a multi-year single document for employment authorization and advance parole, but it is considered not necessarily for the immigrants, but as we discussed earlier, it was a calculated decision for the government finance. The current leadership of the immigration-related government agencies are lame-ducks and immigrants may not be able to expect too much any pro-immigrant moves at the administration-level because of the political pressure from the ruling party.
What is coming ahead? Economic recession and potential massive layoffs and lack of job opportunities for foreign workers. The changing landscape for the employment cannot come in any worse time when the immigrant visa numbers are heavily oversubscribed and clogged, forcing the foreign workers to take a long journey in the hostile employment environment. As the situation moves into steeper economic recession, the foreign workers tend to face not only a risk of layoff but also abuse by some employers who attemp to take advantage of the harsh environment against the foreign worker job markets. These foreign workers should prepare themselves for a difficult time ahead.
For those who are in 485 track, management of AC 21 portability will turn out to be a saviror and constitute an important task. Less fortunate are those who suffer from the visa number rectrogress and are unable to even file I-485 applications. For these immigrant workers, loss of jobs will practically wipe out the immigration opportunity. The longer the visa retrogression period lasts, the harshier their journeys will be. What about those new foreign workers who have yet to look for a job and start the immigration journey from the scratch?
Under the circumstances, all one can hope for is a short-lived economic recession and a turn-around of the country's political landscape in favor of immigration.
Year 2008 may be recorded one of the harshiest years for foreign workers. Immigrant workers, be prepared!
From 2003 Market is picked up very well.
Lets see what is in store for us in 2008.
According to OH Law:
In the election year, pro-immigration political platform constitutes a political liability as witnessed in the current national presidential debates, which turns the country into a strong anti-immigration environment. Consequently, the immigrants will continuously suffer from the seriously broken immigration system. Under the circumstances, people seek the administrative solutions and relief by the immigration-related agencies. However, the hostile political environment tends to work against such decisions for the government agencies as any pro-immigration administration policy may be considered a political liability for the ruling party. It is indeed a difficult time for immigrants. The USCIS has announced that it was working on issuing a multi-year single document for employment authorization and advance parole, but it is considered not necessarily for the immigrants, but as we discussed earlier, it was a calculated decision for the government finance. The current leadership of the immigration-related government agencies are lame-ducks and immigrants may not be able to expect too much any pro-immigrant moves at the administration-level because of the political pressure from the ruling party.
What is coming ahead? Economic recession and potential massive layoffs and lack of job opportunities for foreign workers. The changing landscape for the employment cannot come in any worse time when the immigrant visa numbers are heavily oversubscribed and clogged, forcing the foreign workers to take a long journey in the hostile employment environment. As the situation moves into steeper economic recession, the foreign workers tend to face not only a risk of layoff but also abuse by some employers who attemp to take advantage of the harsh environment against the foreign worker job markets. These foreign workers should prepare themselves for a difficult time ahead.
For those who are in 485 track, management of AC 21 portability will turn out to be a saviror and constitute an important task. Less fortunate are those who suffer from the visa number rectrogress and are unable to even file I-485 applications. For these immigrant workers, loss of jobs will practically wipe out the immigration opportunity. The longer the visa retrogression period lasts, the harshier their journeys will be. What about those new foreign workers who have yet to look for a job and start the immigration journey from the scratch?
Under the circumstances, all one can hope for is a short-lived economic recession and a turn-around of the country's political landscape in favor of immigration.
Year 2008 may be recorded one of the harshiest years for foreign workers. Immigrant workers, be prepared!
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monkeyman
10-17 09:51 AM
Is there a pattern for RFEs? Why some on gets an RFE for AP?
Good question - based on what I am reading on this forum, it seems to me like the RFE is requested for people who travel a lot in and out of the country. My wife has traveled a lot of times - I even lost track in the last 5 years - and she did tell me that they did not take her I-94. It would be still attached to the passport and when she enters back - if the travel time was less than 20 days, the officer discarded her new I-94 and asked her to keep the old I-94 - in some cases, he/she would just take it during entry. This happens mostly when she travels to Mexico or South America. The evidence that was being requested is the dates of travel and type of visa used to enter the country with the required documented evidence on the passport (color copy).
Good question - based on what I am reading on this forum, it seems to me like the RFE is requested for people who travel a lot in and out of the country. My wife has traveled a lot of times - I even lost track in the last 5 years - and she did tell me that they did not take her I-94. It would be still attached to the passport and when she enters back - if the travel time was less than 20 days, the officer discarded her new I-94 and asked her to keep the old I-94 - in some cases, he/she would just take it during entry. This happens mostly when she travels to Mexico or South America. The evidence that was being requested is the dates of travel and type of visa used to enter the country with the required documented evidence on the passport (color copy).
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tonyHK12
04-28 09:51 AM
"Revitalizing the Golden State" looks great for reading but....
- Does legalized illegals really pay taxes?
- what is the possibility that they don't depend on Gov from the day they get their Citizenship?
- Illegals are here from more than 10 years....do the average age is around 40'.... they may work for 10 more years and then depend on Gov.
It is a know truth the advantage of giving GC to Legal EB's then Illegals but as you said we need clear message posted....
We see a lot of these articles every day praising illegal immigration. How about creating a google group with volunteers that will pick up such similar articels and post a rebuttal, either online or through another website?
The one we discussed yesterday was about how illegals contribute to the economy by paying $1.5 Billion in income tax for an estimated 15-20 million illegals.
This was estimated from the 2010 Census data.
We could initially post these rebuttals online on probably a section of the IV website and also send it to other news sites.
People who are good at parsing excel/MDB, csv sheets will be useful.
Most people are not aware of our issues and contributions to society.
- Does legalized illegals really pay taxes?
- what is the possibility that they don't depend on Gov from the day they get their Citizenship?
- Illegals are here from more than 10 years....do the average age is around 40'.... they may work for 10 more years and then depend on Gov.
It is a know truth the advantage of giving GC to Legal EB's then Illegals but as you said we need clear message posted....
We see a lot of these articles every day praising illegal immigration. How about creating a google group with volunteers that will pick up such similar articels and post a rebuttal, either online or through another website?
The one we discussed yesterday was about how illegals contribute to the economy by paying $1.5 Billion in income tax for an estimated 15-20 million illegals.
This was estimated from the 2010 Census data.
We could initially post these rebuttals online on probably a section of the IV website and also send it to other news sites.
People who are good at parsing excel/MDB, csv sheets will be useful.
Most people are not aware of our issues and contributions to society.
liorsal
01-04 11:38 PM
Gentlemen, please do some research before posting questions that has been asked and answered many many times.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2664
o.k, but there is any update?
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2664
o.k, but there is any update?
leo2606
08-18 10:25 AM
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please post how you are proceeding with this matter.may be helpful for someone.
please post how you are proceeding with this matter.may be helpful for someone.